aa intake and turner shark inj.!!!

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sup guys,

since i didn't end up selling my ride i had some cash to spend on my car. i recently installed my active autowerke cai on sun and can honestly say that a power gain is definitely felt!!!! i was actually in shock when i hit the gas 1/2 way and started to hear this high pitch sucking sound (very, very turbo sounding like,...) that, when hit at full throttle, turns into a monstrous growl. i've purchased the intakes off ebay before and they are absolutely complete s*%# compared to this system. in the instructions there's even suggestions on how to modify your car to feed air to the intake!!! awesome quality!!! today i just bought turnermotorsports' shark injector!!! has anyone purchased this before? how significant is the power increase? i saw the dyno charts that suggest about a max of 10-12 hp and tq if you also have an exhaust,( tri-flo) and intake (AA) installed. i'm extremely anxious to get it in and take my car to the track. i think my goal is to have the quickest auto around. i hear soo much about , "you should get a manual dude!!" and, "auto...., i'll kick your ass!!!". we'll see!!! i'll break 15 flat and then some soon!!!
 
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ra328i....i've got the conforti cai and the shark injector on my car.the increase is very definite (sp?)...the conforti cai and the injector were designed to go together. i love it![:D] i added the injector first then the cai.i could tell more of a difference when i added the intake.
what made u chose the AA intake out of curiosity?
 
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the decision was based on the dyno #'s. they both are exactly the same except for the aa cover and the actual cones. the thing that made my mind was this.... i spoke to a turner representative that told me that the only difference between the two systems was the cone filter itself. and the grill cover of course... so i figured that i'd get that bad ass AA cover and get the foam cone later. he also said that the numbers shown on their website are a little off because they're not actual dyno printouts. on the other hand, aa has actual printouts and even a run printout sheed that actually tells you exactly how much power is delivered to your car at every rpm. let's not forget to mention that the 5.5 hp increase they guarantee from the printout is the AVG. increase, not it's MAX. i think the max power increase to the WHEELS is near 9hp without any other mods.

after installing it i quickly made some runs on the highway and let me tell you..... i was amazed with the power difference. my exhaust needed this modification sooooo baddd!!! i think putting the intake in added more power to my exhaust as well. all i can say is... if the turner #'s are as close as he says they are, the chip should make my car scream!!!! check out the graph with both exhaust and cai. that's pretty damn impressive... thanks for the insight bro[thumb]
 
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I would not get your hope up of a major power change from the chip. ODBII cars don't really get any power gains, most of that comes from the CAI itself due to its lower restiction. You may not see any power at all as a matter of fact.
 
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i plan on getting my car dynoed before and after the chip installation. hopefully there'll be some gains. i would expect that from you carcus... i know you're not a power player. truth is, i also didn't think that speed was all that important until i started feeling a difference in power. it used to be all show no go. but now i'm going the whole nine and after the chip i'll be purchasing a brand new set of schrick cams and supersprint headers. oh yeah, by the way bro,... breakin 15 on a car that's supposed to do 16.1 is a monumental feat without boost or nos!!! especially if it's an auto. my main goal in the beginning was to out do the stock auto m3 because that's what i wanted to trade my car in for a year ago. it does 15.3 stock. that would be damn sweet[thumb] . thanks for your opinions guys...
 

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then you need to wait on the software (OBDII cars don't use a 'chip' like OBDI cars do). after the cams, you need a different program to maximize the gains the cams would produce. off the shelf software, like the shark, is not going to do that. you will be spending money twice on the same thing.
BTW, many people have dynoed before and after the shark, some have actually lost HP, average result is no change. only real benefit to it seems to be part throttle driveability, a few extra rpm, and the removal of the speed limiter. The last 2 don't really matter all that much.
Spend your money somewhere else, remember, they don't give refunds!
 
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damn,.. you must've had some bad experiences bro. do you drive a 95 m3 because you seem to know that obd1 cars are easier to mod. if not, where did you get your info from? turner motorsports is all over the net being praised for their conforti shark injectors. i originally wanted to go with the autowerke reprogramming but decided not to simply because i'd have to send in my dme. thanks for looking out for me though. by the way, i've almost bought everything there is for my car, any suggestions on what to do with my dough?
 
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no, I drive a 98 myself. I have many friends here that have M's also. Let me put it this way, I still have a stock computer, and I will walk a 95 with the full intake kit/chip setup, and 2 98's that have the shark, and an M roadster with Dinan software,etc. Plus, having seen dyno's before/after.
If you have not done suspension or brakes, go with those.
 
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ra328i said:
i plan on getting my car dynoed before and after the chip installation. hopefully there'll be some gains. i would expect that from you carcus... i know you're not a power player. truth is, i also didn't think that speed was all that important until i started feeling a difference in power. it used to be all show no go. but now i'm going the whole nine and after the chip i'll be purchasing a brand new set of schrick cams and supersprint headers. oh yeah, by the way bro,... breakin 15 on a car that's supposed to do 16.1 is a monumental feat without boost or nos!!! especially if it's an auto. my main goal in the beginning was to out do the stock auto m3 because that's what i wanted to trade my car in for a year ago. it does 15.3 stock. that would be damn sweet[thumb] . thanks for your opinions guys...
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LOL....not ragging ya ra328i, you got a nice car. I just want to keep it real sometimes. People have money and want to spend it.....it is all fine by me. I am a power player....only if it works and makes the HP per $$$$$ amount in a reasonable area. And you know I have an automatic as well and love your car. Just coming from a different auto background.....the LS1 engine that was a heck of a lot cheaper to mod......I still have in my mind.......300 bucks for a injector....a few HP.....not many dyno tests.....CAI.....a few hundred for a shielded one....a few HP.....and then 800 bucks for a catback....again a few HP. Add all those up and you got well over a grand for little gain over the HP per dollar ratio. Again, not ragging the mods....just VERY expensive for what you get and hey, before people get some of these mods...would be nice to see before and after dyno and track runs. 15 sec 1/4 miles are not that great. My car is a nice cruiser...but not a street racer. Yes, if I had a few grand....as with any car I can make it fast. I hope no one takes this the wrong way, but if you wanted a fast car.......a used BMW....which was in my price range, yep...a nice new M3 or M5....would be awsome, well out of my price range. Believe it or not...it is cheaper to modify a Honda to be faster than a E36. I hate to say it, but it is true. Don't get me wrong....I love my used BMW....drove plenty of cars that were faster. My 328ic has enough umph for the road, and yes I would like some extra passing power merging on the freeway, my convert weighs more than a sedan....but for the HP to dollar ratio.....unless I see some REAL results on a dyno....from REAL people, not the people who sell them.....I am happy with the top down. Bad thing is when I had the Z28, no one wanted to play.....no with the BMW....just driving and having fun with this awsome car, everyone wants to race. Kinda miss the Z28, but am happy none the less. Just blithering my feelings. But hey, my first BMW was a 80's 316i euro spec 4 banger I got while stationed in Italy. I loved it. Guess I came back for seconds. Having a BMW vert, I always wanted one, got a used one.....just never planned for it being a racer. Again, not ragging on my car, I love it.....but very different with 190HP automatic with very expensive mods to what I owned with the LS1. Even with the LS1.....I spent the money with documented and proven items from other users. Alot of mods are OVER exagerated. Hey, I post the good and bad. I got some cheap tail lights after my stock ones were broken, I paid the price, posted how they sucked.....have to go both ways with stuff. The good....the bad...the ugly. If I had 800 bucks to spend on a catback that will give me 2 HP or a nice set of speakers to replace the stock Nokia garbage......guess what I would pick. Again, just my 2 cents. Not ragging or flaming. Just my opinion....but you know what they say about opinions.......LOL....[;)]
 
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Yeah, white the topic is there, I was looking into getting sliiightly more power out of my 2.0 M50 motor, its 92 24V, no vanos.. the car is automatic, and feels like missing some 10-20 hp to be fun to drive, i mean, the overtakings may "surprise" you, its just not enough sometimes.

I figured that all those upgrades like intakes and bigger injectors are waste without some serious approach from chipping, exhausts, cams, etc.. it should be done as compete package from top to down. But it costs way over my budget, plus, it will increase fuel consumption significantly. I want some proven, simple and known solutions what applies to early 24V.
I mean, whats the first-to-do mods for M50? The bigest issue in my opinion is the weak bottom-RPM torque, VANOS fixes it greatly.

Also, I noticed the great RPM difference, or more precisely - transmission ratio difference between 5-speed ZF5HP18 automatic and 5-speed manual. Manual has like 3000 RPMs at 100km/h vs automatic has 2200 RPMs at 100km/h. Well, it has some benefits, like better highway mileage maybe, but I bet such bogging-heavy automatic is not good at city driving. So idea was to swap the final drive gearset from E30 differential, the 3.64. Has anyone tried this and whats the opinion on the subject?

-bmwaddict
1992 E36 320i automatic, [:D]
1989 A2 Golf Rallye, [}:)]
 
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What the

Forgive the ignorance of this rookie folks. But is there a dictionary on this web site? I have been reading a lot of stuff here, and I can guess some of the lingo definitions. But what does the following mean?

ODBII
ODBI
CAI
VANOS
Shark

Or any other abreviated, shop words, slang, techy words that I missed.
 
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