Installed Hardwire Radar Detector
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Well, I like knowing when the popo is around. It has saved my ass several times. Of course, when it comes to laser, sometimes it just lets you know you're screwed. It's been a couple of years since I have been hit for speeding, and I have a pretty heavy foot. Got pulled over once this year for allegedly running a red light. Too bad the bozos weren't running radar, because I would've known they were around. The accused me in court of driving "fast" but couldn't back it up without radar or laser. I ended up having to appeal the court finding (I ran a yellow, which is like running a red apparently), and they offered me a plea, "impeding traffic". Zero points is better than 3 points on the license.
Valentine1 makes probably the best detector out there. It's worth the $400 to get one. Just thinking of all the court costs/fees it has saved me, not to mention keeping my license (which now has 0 points against it), reminds me of how valuable a tool it is. Sweet.
-J
Valentine1 makes probably the best detector out there. It's worth the $400 to get one. Just thinking of all the court costs/fees it has saved me, not to mention keeping my license (which now has 0 points against it), reminds me of how valuable a tool it is. Sweet.
-J
I just can't justify spending $400 on something like a radar detector that really doesn't directly do anything for me. $400 is a heck of a lot of money. IMO, it's easier (and cheaper) to just not drive 90+ mph on the interstate. I drive 5-8 mph over the limit on the interstate and in town, and I have never been picked up for speeding.
Whatever works for you, dude. Some of us don't choose to conform like that. Sure, the arguement is that speeding is illegal, and we are maybe criminals for driving fast, right? I'm sorry, but I find that to be BS. Our vehicles are designed for high speed, especially these wonderful german cars we are so lucky to have. The laws limiting our speed are not very well thought out, and we still suffer because of the gasoline shortage of the late 70s. I personally have the ability to pay attention to my surroundings and control my car even at a very high rate of speed. We may not want a soccer mom on her cell phone doing 120 down the interstate, but that is what the right lane is for. Unfortunately, the "people" here in MI don't like the right lane, prefering instead to block all forward progress by plodding along in their SUVs in the left lane.
**** 'em and dust 'em, I say. Maybe I got spoiled living in Germany when I was in the Army, getting to drive the autobahn, my VW pegged to the limiter. I think the real spoiler was the courtesy that european drivers show to each other, and the overall higher degree of awareness. They pay better attention to what's going on, they get out of your way if you are going faster, and they aren't raging assholes like most american drivers. Hell, half the reason I speed is to just get away from the dangerous idiots that aren't paying attention and endangering my life.
$400 is a small amount to pay in relation to the amount that getting involved with the legal system will cost you.
-J
**** 'em and dust 'em, I say. Maybe I got spoiled living in Germany when I was in the Army, getting to drive the autobahn, my VW pegged to the limiter. I think the real spoiler was the courtesy that european drivers show to each other, and the overall higher degree of awareness. They pay better attention to what's going on, they get out of your way if you are going faster, and they aren't raging assholes like most american drivers. Hell, half the reason I speed is to just get away from the dangerous idiots that aren't paying attention and endangering my life.
$400 is a small amount to pay in relation to the amount that getting involved with the legal system will cost you.
-J
Dude, chill out. I wasn't even making the argument not to speed. Just stating my opinion that I can't justify spending $400 to try to circumvent being pulled over when I can just choose not speed excessively in the first place and not give the cops a reason to pull me over in the first place. You proved it yourself in your previous post that the $400 radar detector isn't a fail safe thing anyways. Why spend $400 on something and then rely on it to avoid "getting involved with the legal system" if it can't guarantee that you won't get caught? I have a hard time parting with $400 of my money for a device that works like that.
And since you brought it up, I do think it is irresponsible to drive at 90+ mph on the interstate. Just because your car was "designed for high speed" gives you the license to grossly disregard the speed limit and dust everyone else? Give me a break. I lived in Germany for two years myself, and you are absolutely right - the drivers there do know how to drive at high speed and do tend to have an overall higher degree of awareness of what's going on around them. Drivers here don't watch what's going on around them and don't get out of your way if you are going faster than them. In my book, that's all the more reason not to drive above and beyond the speed of everyone else. You may be "Zen" with your car and your surroundings, but they aren't watching for you.
And my method does work for me, thank you very much. I enjoy seeing people who pass me on the interstate at 90+ mph pulled over a couple of miles down the road with a set of blue lights behind them.
And since you brought it up, I do think it is irresponsible to drive at 90+ mph on the interstate. Just because your car was "designed for high speed" gives you the license to grossly disregard the speed limit and dust everyone else? Give me a break. I lived in Germany for two years myself, and you are absolutely right - the drivers there do know how to drive at high speed and do tend to have an overall higher degree of awareness of what's going on around them. Drivers here don't watch what's going on around them and don't get out of your way if you are going faster than them. In my book, that's all the more reason not to drive above and beyond the speed of everyone else. You may be "Zen" with your car and your surroundings, but they aren't watching for you.
And my method does work for me, thank you very much. I enjoy seeing people who pass me on the interstate at 90+ mph pulled over a couple of miles down the road with a set of blue lights behind them.
Sorry man, wasn't trying to start a flame war. I was just preaddressing the common issues that come up with this topic. Getting pulled over occassionally is the price we pay for being speeders. It's a trade off. We accept it. We don't like it, and we try to mitigate it with Radar Detectors and as much common sense and awareness as possible, but no, it's not foolproof. I realize that there is a concern about driving fast around others, but they are aware that people drive fast, and instead of trying to complement the flow of traffic by staying out of the way, they feel like they have to run other people's lives by getting in the way and staying there. Well, I am going to do what I want, which is to be away from those people. I mean, seriously, do they want me crowding them, tailgating in the fast lane? My brakes are better than theirs, my reaction time is better... I am not worried about me. I just prefer to get the hell away. I like driving, I like it a lot, but I like the process of getting places quickly and fluidly with as little BS as possible. I don't cotton to the lollygaggers and blue hairs that think it's their role to prevent speeders.
$400 is a lot of money, I won't argue that. But, I've spent a lot more on a lot of things that were of a lot less value. In the long run, my V1 has paid for itself. And the reality is, there are a lot of people like me... people who are conscious, thoughtful and fast drivers, that want to get where they're going without any "imperial entanglements". For those folks, the V1 is a useful and valuable tool.
I will admit, I have cooled off a bit in the past couple of years. My record is finally clean, and I like that. Insurance is much cheaper this way! But, I still drive fast... just not really really fast. And I am more thoughtful about when I do it. But I am always at least 10-15 over, if not more.
Rock on!
-J